Nu Tech DDW-081: More DVD+R madness

Name: Nu Tech DDW-081: More DVD+R madness
Item: Nu Tech DDW-081: More DVD+R madness
Author: Kristopher Kubicki

by Kristopher Kubicki on October 22, 2003 10:54 PM EST

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Testing the drive

We recently upgraded our hardware test bed to allow for a more stable and powerful workhorse.

Albatron 865PE Pro II
Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz 800FSB
4 x 512 DDR OCZ PC3200 EL
Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache
Windows XP SP1

Using DVD/CD Speed 2.01, we had run a battery of read, write and rewrite tests on the drive.

Our drives CD and read speeds were very similar to the Plextor 8X 708A. We noticed that CD seek times were a little higher than average, but on the other hand, DVD speeds were significantly lower. The 110ms seek time for DVD+R/W's is almost 1/3 of the Plextor 708A seeks. Our tests find the Nu Tech DDW-081 about 15% - 20% faster seeking than the Pioneer A06.

Label	Rating	Average Transfer	Seek Random	Seek 1/3	Seek Full	Media Length
Ritek 97m31s01f (Cyanine AZO)	52X CDR	31.48X	101ms	110ms	160ms	69.59.51 CAV
Mitsubishi 97m23s24f	24X CDRW	20.41X	103ms	113ms	170ms	74.41.01 CAV
YUDEN000T01	4X DVD+R	6.17X	103ms	120ms	172ms	4.38GB CLV
MCC 002	8X DVD+R	6.22X	96ms	116ms	170ms	4.38GB CAV
Ricoh RICOHJPN	2.4X DVD+RW	6.22X	109ms	120ms	182ms	4.38GB CLV

Unfortunately, near the end of a long burn or read, the drive began to rattle slightly. Although it does not seem critical, at least not yet, there is some concern that this rattle could damage the media or the drive. The eject time of the unit is a little slow — around 12.13 seconds.

Nexperia PNX7850: Powering the Nu Tech DDW-081 Burning

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Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link
United Micro has it for $139 shipped.

http://www.unitedmicro.com/partw.cgi?DWNT006++5
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link
#11: My apologies, I did use DiskInfo Pro.

Here is what DIP says AFTER I burned the media.

YUDEN Disks labeled Plextor
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID YUDEN000T01
Format Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 23053Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

RICOH Disks labeled Imation
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR01
Format Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 23053Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

MMC Disks labeled Verbatim
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR01
Format Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 23053Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Another Ricoh Disk labeled FujiFilm
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR00
Format Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD-ROM
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 23053Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

There are two things I'd like to point out. The first being DiskInfoPro identified the MCC disk as 8X before it was burned. Furthermore, the FujiFilm disk was identified as 4X on the box, and 4X in DiskInfoPro before it was burned.

#12: Thank you for the updated link. The PDF I recieved was straight from QSI and I was unaware there was an update on the chipset.

Cheers,

Kristopher
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link
Yes... MMC 02 is capable of 8x with that drive. That's why your utility is saying that. However, that doesn't mean that Verbatim/Mitsu. actually rates it at that speed.
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link
One more thing, in the review you claim that the PNX7850 chipset does not support 8x speed. Not true, it does: http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/lite...
It was only early versions that didn't support 8x. The PDF you link to is for the complete reference design where the Philips OPU 66.20 limits the speed to 4x (I assume QSI uses a different PUH).
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link
Then Diskinfo is wrong because MCC 002 (as in Mitsubishi Chemical Corp. and not MMC) DVD+R media are only certified for 4x speed. Use DVDInfoPro or DVDIndentifier instead for checking the media.
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link
Thanks Christopher :)for the links
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link
#1: We did not have a verbatim disk included. We have a 4X DVD+RW instead. Remember, we had a review sample so ours might have been slightly different. We had to upgrade from QSI firmware just to bring ours to spec with the retail drives.

#2: DiskInfo, kind of a neat utlity, claimed the MMC 02 disk is capable of 4X and 8X.

I uploaded the firmware for anyone who wants to download it. Its on the last page of the article.

Cheers,

Kristopher
Murse - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link
You can also take a look at this thread:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=...

They sell it at Newegg, Excaliberpc, Atacom, Unitedmicro, Zipzoomfly...to name a few.
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link
Check this thread there are a few sites mentioned..
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12956...
Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link
If anybody knows where you can buy one, please post a link. Thank you.