The AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 Review: Unleashing Zen 5 and RDNA 3.5 Into Notebooks
by Gavin Bonshor on July 28, 2024 9:00 AM ESTASUS Zenbook S 16: Power Consumption & Performance Modes
A big part of any laptop's performance is its TDP – how much energy the chassis can consistently dissipate – meaning that two laptops can have wildly different performance, despite using the same chip, just by virtue of their cooling capabilities. So measuring the peak and sustained power consumed by a laptop is particularly important, both to get an idea of where it falls on the ultrabook-to-DTR spectrum, but also how a design compares to other laptops. Especially with an architecture launch like this one, we need to know if a performance lead comes from architecture and efficiency, or just running a lot of power through a chip.
The AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 has a rather large configurable TDP range overall, with the chip capable of being set to anything between 15 and 54 W. This gives Strix Point a wide berth to fit in everything from ultrabooks to larger gaming notebooks, but it also means that the chip's performance, particularly in heavily multi-threaded and mixed CPU/GPU workloads is going to be defined by its TDP.
Despite its 16-inch frame, In the ASUS Zenbook S 16 is configured rather conservatively. ASUS has taken what's nominally a 28W chip and dialed it down to 17W for it's out-of-the-box experience. Dubbed "Standard Mode" the out-of-the-box experience is a laptop that's highly efficient and highly quiet, but does leave some performance on the table for the sake of acoustics.
ASUS also gives the user quite a bit of latitude to pick performance modes here, with the Zenbook offering 4 different modes altogether. Besides the standard mode, there's the ultra quiet "Whisper mode", the performant "Performance Mode" with a 28W TDP, and the no-holds-barred "Full-speed Mode".
For most of the Zenbook S 16 you'll see today – ours included – you'll find these laptops are running in the 28 Watt Performance Mode. This comes by request of AMD, who is looking to show off what the chip can do at its standard TDP, rather than ASUS's dialed-down TDP. And while we're not beholden to this (or any other) request from AMD, from a pragmatic standpoint it's a lot easier to find 28W laptops than it is 17W laptops. So for our first round of testing, we have dialed up our laptop to its 28W mode.
In our peak power test, the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 ramped up and peaked at 33 W. We typically see a higher peak power value than the TDP before things settle down during an intensive workload, although the Intel Core Ultra 7 155H within the ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED did manage to peak at 64 W for a very brief moment, which is way out of spec.
Looking at the power of the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 when using Maxon's latest Cinebench 2024 (multi-threaded test) benchmark, which is quite an intensive rendering workload, we can see how it compares to the Ryzen 9 7940HS when dialed down to 35W, as well as the Intel Core Ultra 7 155H which is running at 28W within the ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED. Aside from the very large spike up to 45W on the Core Ultra 7 155H, we see a pretty consistent level of power usage from the CPU package (the cores).
Focusing on the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, we can see it quickly ramped up and achieved a very consistent load level, bouncing between 32 and 33 W throughout the Cinebench 2024 MT benchmark loop. As the benchmarking loop carried on, power consumption slowly dropped to a steady-state TDP of 28W, matching the configured TDP of the laptop. The slow and gradual drop in power towards the end was very smooth. The same can be said about the Ryzen 9 7940HS. In contrast, the Intel Core Ultra 7 155H produces some slightly noisier data, bouncing around between 26.5 W and 29 W throughout the test.
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StormyParis - Tuesday, July 30, 2024 - link
Right now they mostly make noise, like a muffler on a car ^^Khanan - Tuesday, July 30, 2024 - link
From asking dumb questions to pretending to be an expert.TheinsanegamerN - Wednesday, July 31, 2024 - link
The questions are not dumb tho? What does this "AI" do? It "helps me with tasks"? How so? What does it do that I cannot already do myself? How does it change my life?Khanan - Wednesday, July 31, 2024 - link
Do you have a brain? Then use it. If not... well.GeoffreyA - Thursday, August 1, 2024 - link
Khanan: AI, in its traditional sense, is a legitimate field. Artificial neural networks and the transformer architecture are advances on the road to strong AI. The idea, as science-fiction has always speculated, is to match the human mind; this has its own philosophical and ethical questions. Now, what's wrong with today's "AI" is that greedy corporations, seeing dollar signs, latched onto this technology, abusing an important field by trying to make money out of it, forcing it onto people. (And nobody is fond of being forced.) The truth is, what they're offering makes little difference to most people's tasks, so they're trying to invent tasks we can do with it, and understandably, people are fed up hearing and seeing it everywhere. It is like the TV infomercial selling you a bizzare product that will, they allege, make your life better. So, the comments of StormyParis and TheinsanegamerN are quite valid questions to ask.GeoffreyA - Thursday, August 1, 2024 - link
TL;DR. Today's AI is, in my opinion, opportunistic monetisation of important science. And when the leather-jacket-wearing man says it's democracy, he's thinking about his bank balance.Khanan - Friday, August 2, 2024 - link
This isn’t the issue. I’m just not taking my time and effort to reply to trolls, maybe you missed him behaving in a very odd way.eastcoast_pete - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link
That is currently my main question/complaint about all these "AI/NPU" PCs.I'd like to know how much die area is used for the NPU in this APU or, for that matter, PHOENIX/Hawk and Meteor Lake? Are there any estimates from die shots?
Khanan - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link
you should know one thing: the cpu or gpu wouldn't be any bigger without the npu, as those are maxed out.eastcoast_pete - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link
How do you know that to be the case?